City council has revised ordinance in hand

By Don Bowen/Fremont Tribune
Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 - 04:58:36 pm CDT

A newly revised version of an ordinance targeting illegal immigrants has been given to members of the Fremont City Council.

The new version of the proposed ordinance from city attorney Dean Skokan includes a section to prohibit hiring illegal immigrants. That section was missing from the original version introduced July 8.

At an earlier council meeting, members voted 5-3 to have city attorney Dean Skokan draft an ordinance including all three elements, but Skokan said including verbiage outlawing the hiring of illegal immigrants would hinder the city in any lawsuit because of a 1997 Nebraska attorney general opinion that says the state has no authority over that matter.

Furthermore, the opinion from then-Attorney General Don Stenberg stated that federal law preempted any state or local law that would impose civil or criminal sanctions on anyone who employs an illegal immigrant.

Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning on Monday stood by that opinion, stated a spokeswoman.

But Skokan said the second draft of the proposed ordinance now includes the hiring element of the city council’s original request.

Fremont City Council Member Bob Warner, who pushed for the proposed ordinance because he said he was tired of the ineffectiveness of federal immigration policies, said he believes this ordinance would free the city of illegal immigrants.

Skokan said it’s also likely that if the proposed ordinance would pass, it would land the city in court.

“We are a subdivision of the state,” Skokan said at the

July 8 meeting. “Going against our own state provision would increase the likelihood of a lawsuit, make the difficulty of winning such a lawsuit greater and make the consequences of losing greater. I have not read a single decree where this type of ordinance was upheld.”

At the July 8 meeting, several people spoke in favor of the ordinance, many of them naming Hormel Foods Corp. and Fremont Beef Co. specifically in their comments. But neither business is in Fremont city limits.

Warner said it doesn’t matter to him that those companies are outside the city limits.

“It makes no different to me,” he said. “I’m pushing for a city ordinance because that’s as far as my duty goes.”

Warner said he suspects the biggest offenders of federal laws that prohibit hiring illegal immigrants are packing houses and construction-related companies.

“I’ve gotten a lot of phone calls from people around Nebraska. I got a call from a man from Omaha (Wednesday) morning who said his company closed because he couldn’t compete with the illegal immigrants,” he said.

But Warner said he doesn’t want anything complicated from a city law.

“All I want it to do is prohibit harboring, hiring and or renting to illegal immigrants. That’s all. If they’re here documented, I’m fine with that. I am against illegals because they are breaking the law that all citizens must respect and obey,” he said.

Attempts to reach Hormel Foods plant manager in Fremont Donnie Temperley and Fremont Beef Co. president Les Leech for comment on this article were unsuccessful.

Also attempts to reach some construction-related companies for comment were unsuccessful. A man who answered the phone at a roofing company in Fremont refused to give his name when asked about the company’s policies on documentation required when hiring an immigrant.

But city council member Scott Getzschman said many of the bigger companies in the area use a federally certified system to verify an immigrant’s legal status when being considered for hire.

“A lot of the companies use E-Verify,” said Getzschman, president of Getzschman Heating. “The whole issue with this (local ordinance proposal) is that the laws are there already. It’s illegal for me or anyone else to knowingly hire illegal immigrants. The federal government has to step up to the plate and start enforcing that better.”

The online service E-verify is a system through the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

“E-Verify is free and voluntary,” information on the government Web site stated, “and is the best means available for determining employment eligibility of new hires and the validity of their Social Security numbers.

“Participating employers can check the work status of new hires online by comparing information from an employee’s I-9 form against SSA (Social Security Administration) and Department of Homeland Security databases,” the information continued. “More than 69,000 employers are enrolled in the program with over 4 million queries run so far in fiscal year 2008.”

The U.S. government’s fiscal year starts Oct. 1.

Getzschman said that he knows Hormel, Fremont Beef and Overland Products use the E-Verify system. Overland Products is within the city limits.

But this proposed ordinance is turning focus away from things that would be more constructive, he said.

“To have an ordinance on hiring like this is silly if people think the meat of the problem is at Hormel and Fremont Beef, which are outside the city limits,” he said. “Enforcement with any part of this is going to be nearly impossible to do. Quite frankly, it’s not up to the city of Fremont to solve this issue.”

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Its not just hiring
Jul 24, 2008 11:50 AM
It needs to be mentioned that the issue just isn't about hiring illegals. It's about the whole process. Renting to them, allowing them to live here, to work here, and to participate in all forms of goverment services when they are not legal citizens. I'm sure the majority of the citizens in Fremont will support any legalize member of the community. It is the group of individuals that are here illegally that need to be asked to leave, or given the proper information to obtain a legal status. Until then they need to be told to go back home, until they can be here legally. Keep up the good work Council. This is the first step that needs to be taken to correct a serious problem, not only here in Fremont, but Nation wide.
fremonter
Jul 24, 2008 11:52 AM
this whole thing is getting to be better than watching the 3 stooges, or laurel & hardy, or abbot and costello. what a bunch of morons. actually its pretty sad that we as the public of fremont have to be represented by a bunch of brainless twits.
Concerned
Jul 24, 2008 12:47 PM
Finally someone with some sense - Scott Getzschman hit the nail on the head - it is not up to the city of Fremont to enforce a law that is already in effect at the federal level. The federal gov needs to enforce the laws that they write.
Alissa M Moreli
Jul 24, 2008 1:41 PM
I can understand our frustration about illegal immigrants. But, are we seriously foolish to believe that this proposed ordinance will be accepted and enforced? People, here is the bottom line, we cannot end illegal immigration in this county let alone in Fremont. Our nation has had it's boarders opened for years upon years upon years. Anyone would be severely clueless to think that after all these years we would now be able to make a dent against illegal immigration. For those of you who continually state this is not a "race" issue, then why is Fremont Beef and Hormel Foods always brought up? Is it because it's where "those" people work? Jesus for the love of Christ and our Country and our Community, let's not waste any more of our tax money on an open city council meeting and the electricity it will need to light the place and keep the temp cool. Mr Warner sincerely why are you continuing with this effort? Obviously a man of your knowledge knows this is something that will never happen.
are you serious
Jul 24, 2008 4:42 PM
this entire exercise is a waste of time by our government officials

why increase red tape and add addition fees to all of the legal residents to do this ridiculous effort?
slc
Jul 24, 2008 5:01 PM
Alissa: You do bring up a good point. Does anybody HONESTLY believe that here in a few years we're all going to live "Illegal Free"? Do all of you SERIOUSLY think that the state is going to say, "Oh, alright Fremont, go ahead and ban illegal immigrants in your town."? If it's not stopped at the state level, then surely, the feds will have something to say about this... the man will bring everyone down once again, and again, and again.
I do, however, admire the gumption that everyone has on the issue... it's cute. It's getting attention, which COULD be a step in the right direction. I can tell you all right now that this is not going to happen, so don't put your hopes too high, because if Fremont doesn't stop it, then the state or the federal government will.
ThisAmerican
Jul 24, 2008 5:06 PM
Thank God there are not many left who think like Lisa. How about the 14th Amendment be STRICTLY interpreted in the spirit and nature with which it was written? No more anchor baby citizenship for ANY illegal alien. Can't SCREAM racism, then, can you? How about once ABC is stopped, NO benefits of any kind for ANY non citizen? Can't scream racism there since it is applied across the board. Finally, severely fine ANY employer of illegals for ALL past due taxes, for ALL social service received by their illegal workers and their families for all incarceration and deportation cost for ALL illegal workers from WHEREVER!! WE can do that, can't we, Lisa?
If not, AMERICANS need to stop paying taxes, change their with holding immediately and NOT file on 4/15/09. I mean IF we caaaaaaaan't enforce our laws regarding 38= Million illegals, who are we to enforce tax laws for 200 million AMERICANS?
hunt and fish
Jul 24, 2008 5:24 PM
Instead of passing an ordinance that can't be inforced why don't citizens start petitions nationwide and show senators and congress what citizens think is priority. Instead we are running around policing the world forgetting about home. This isn't slamming our Military. GOD BLESS OUR PEOPLE WHO SERVE.
ludvig
Jul 24, 2008 6:03 PM
Bob Warner is a bully and the other council members should not be bullied by him. His raised voice, swearing and attempt to "rally" the audience in embarassing.

Stand up for good goverment and use a little true leadership.

Who doesn't want a solution to immigration issues. THIS IS NOT IT. Just grandstanding -- plain and simple.

Being against this ordinance doesn't mean you think it is ok to come, live and work here illegally...In my case it means that I understand the role the various forms of govt. play, it means that I believe that we should pass ordinances that will actually work and really address the problem at hand and not just play political games.

This will cost lots of money, will not really be enforced and is not the top priority for our community. Why not spend this much energy on something that really can have an impact on Fremont.
Hey Charlie J
Jul 24, 2008 6:14 PM
Mr Jannssen - -we don't need you standing on street corners waving at us for votes...we need your leadership on on the city council right now and on this issue.

Sure you support efforts to address illegal immigration BUT do you really support creating laws that are contray to Attny. General opinions, ones where cities try to supercede state and federal laws, ones that will costs taxpayers a fortune -- and will not work?

If that is the kind of leadership we can expect from you down in Lincoln and the kind of lawys you support then you lost my vote.

Be a stand up guy and show some leadership here-- tell us what YOU think -- not what your advisors say you should think.

Show us that you can withstand the pressure to join in to support a bad ordinance even though it might be the popular thing to do.

You are my reprentative on the council...I'm asking you not to support this ordinance. Not becuase I support illegials -- but becusase this is bad for Fremont on so many levels and is simply bad politics.
I wonder
Jul 24, 2008 9:15 PM
who is going to pay for this?

I don't want folks here illegally at all. I don't want them hired at businesses in Fremont. I don't want them getting anything for free. I'm concerned about the growing number of people living in poverty in our area.

But, I don't want to foot the bill for this law...especially when it will not be enforced (or can't be)...but we know will be sued. We have so many more important issues in Fremont that need attention.

We are all frustrated...but let's use our leadership in an effective manner -- not this foolish one.
city council...
Jul 24, 2008 9:22 PM
Thank you Mr. Getzschman for providing a voice of reason on this issue.

Other council members-- come public with your views please. Don't hide -- we elected you to be our leaders.

Please explain why you would support this law -- and if it's just because you are frustrated or you don't want illegals in Fremont -- then explain how this would make this happen.

Then, also explain how Fremont can afford this legal battle and why this would be such a critical issue for our community that we spend the time and dollars on this law.

If you don't support this law...I would also like to understand your view.
Tired of Morons-Used to be Bobo
Jul 24, 2008 10:07 PM
Actually, buffoonery like this always presents opportunity. I recently purchased an option on a tract of land in Inglewood. The plan is for a 100 unit apartment building with room to expand, plus space for some mobile homes. I've got similar plans for Nickerson. I've also got interest from investors in Arlington and North Bend.
Go Fremont
Jul 25, 2008 1:26 AM
I hope this ordinance passes, but even if it doesn't it sends a statement. That the majority of citizens are fed up with illegal immigration in this country. For anyone who knows anything about meatpacking; construction; even motel housekeeping; you know Americans have always done these jobs in years past. I worked meatpacking for many years, so know first hand. These small and large businesses bring in illegals to do the work cheaper without complaint from them. Not only do they take our jobs; it decreases wages for American workers and makes for unsafe working conditions as illegals do not know or follow OSHA or hygenic standards. No wonder the food chain is getting contaminated. They get fake IDs & SS#s(a friend had her babys SS# stolen by an illegal). We need to wake up and see what is happening here. Something needs to be done with this massive problem. Pennsyvania; Missouri; Arizona and other states have passed illegal immigration laws. We can too.
fed up
Jul 25, 2008 3:28 AM
How about making Fremont's official language english now so that we can control the hispanics totally
mka
Jul 25, 2008 4:08 AM
If Hormels is using the E-Verify system then this system is a big joke. You need to find a better system. Are you sure that Hormels isn't the one passing out new ids to illegals to work? Just because they use the unemploment office then they claim no knowledge of illegal behavior. They have the same people come back with different names every year. It is an acceptable practice there. We can only hope people keep contacting ICE to let them know of the illegal activites at Hormels.
Nancy
Jul 25, 2008 9:02 AM
Where is Jeff Fortenberry's input on this issue (he does have an office here)? I want to know why him and Hagel dodge this issue. These two men are actually the ones we need to put the pressure on. They need to tell Washington that Fremont and Nebraska are no longer wanting to be a sanctuary city and state. I tried to talk to Fortenberry at JC Fremont days and the minute I brought up our immigration issue, he gave me a dirty look and walked away. You can count on the fact that I will go out and actively campaign against this man. He has buried his head in the sand to long and has done nothing for the people in his district short of mere lip service. I challenge this man to come to Fremont, to our council meeting and see just what the majority of people really wants. I challenge him to actively take an interest in what his constitients want and put pressure on Washington to address this issue. Isn't that why we elected him? I am not a big Chuck Hagel fan but I do beleive he would listen to Nebraskans if they contacted him. Jeff Fortenberry's idea is his silly little newsletter that reads the same as the one before. Line after line of nothing but double talk. The time is now Mr Fortenberry to step up to the plate and support the people you represent, the way they (the majority want) and not be afraid to buck big business to enforce the very laws that are already on the books. I have had many conversations with many civic and business leaders in this community. Do you know what comes up the most? The fact that the major businesses and the three major banks, and major realtors in Fremont are putting pressure on the council to not pass this ordinance. I for one am calling my bank and if they do not support this ordinance I will take my banking elsewhere. I will not do business with anyone who feels they have to coerce an issue to their advantage. Although some of these companies put major amounts of money into Fremont, they would not be able to do it without the paychecks and monies of the individuals of Fremont. Our city and state need to start listening and acting the will of the people who elected them, not the big businesses who control them and line there pockets. Time to step up to The plate Mr. Fortenbery and Mr. Hagel. If you have any stance on this issue no matter what side you take, you need to contact Fortenberry and Hagel and let your voice be heard. If everyone who had an interest in this debate called, wrote or emailed these to men, they would finally have to take a stand and do something for their state. I challenge all of you to contact your congressman and senator, let your voices be heard. Let them hear you clearly!!
To Fed Up
Jul 25, 2008 11:06 AM
Nebraska's official language is English. As you can see it does nothing to "control the Hispanics totally" as you put it. Because what language one speaks has nothing to do with if they are here legally or not. Not to mention that immigrants (legal and otherwise) come from all different countries and speak all different languages. Way to feed the racisim debate though but mentioning one specific race of folks.
Megan
Jul 25, 2008 11:50 AM
I understand the need for stricter ordinances but how do you intend to be stricter on renting and hiring without racial profiling?
jd
Jul 25, 2008 1:34 PM
this very well may be passed- but who really thinks it will enforced! the slumlords of this town will lose the 500 -600$ they get a month for their rat holes. the meat packing plants will never make it without them. there's probably a chance wal-mart will go under! when the first of the month comes who is gonna be there to whip out the 600$ food stamp card!
To Megan
Jul 25, 2008 3:08 PM
You can enforce it without racial profiling because it applies to all renters. Therefore, it won't matter the color of your skin, EVERYONE would be require to have a renters permit and provide it upon renting. It's not like the landlords can just pick and choose who they ask to show it.
Fremont Redneck
Jul 25, 2008 3:23 PM
They took err jeerrbbss !!!
dad
Jul 25, 2008 9:08 PM
I don't think I want my son going to college in Fremont ... too many redneck bubbas patrolling the streets looking for illegals! My son would probably be misidentified and made to feel like an illegal alien. Not a very tolerant community within which to grow emotionally and intellectually. Oh well, I'll just have to spend my $30,000.00 per year some where else!
What IS Missing
Jul 26, 2008 4:30 AM
Fremont, what a wonderful community it once was. The problem is not "illegals". The problem(s) all exist because of an incompetent Mayor, leading other city officials who all have their own personal agendas.
When a decision is ever made, check out who benefits.
The good ol' boys network still reigns.
Politics as usual in Fremont. No growth, stagnant economy. dying downtown, no job growth, decaying infrastructure, lack of a city government who doesn't maintain it's assets (pool issues) BUT a concentrated effort on the big issues . . . like bailing out the downtown merchants who only whine andcomplain, but want the taxpayers to pay for improvements they want, or erecting a sign for Midland College.
It is all about misplaced priorities, lack of a vision, and incompetency . . . a government that only cuts ribbons and slaps people on the back spells failure. Fremont will continue to stumble with no leadersdhip and no vision. It is time to find a competent leader.
Andy S
Jul 26, 2008 7:03 AM
Megan it has nothing to do with any race it has to do with BEING HERE LEGALLY. People try to make it a race issue and it is NOT. Just because the majority of them is hispanic this is why they bring race in to it.If any American brakes our laws we are punished. Why shouldn't they?? They claim they will take back our country and at the moment they are. We are a country of laws and they have to be enforced
Non Fremont resisdent
Jul 26, 2008 10:30 AM
I have a better solution to the illegals. Why don't the lazy white citizens of Fremont simply quit complaining about how hard the work is and how meager the wages are at Hormel and go reclaim their old jobs back. Illegal (and legal) immigration problem solved. It's pretty pathetic that you people are so lazy that you got city council members leading the charge to make being an illegal.. well illegal... yeah, good luck with that. You'll eliminate maybe a grand total of 6-7 workers at Hormel and have zero impact on your economy..bunch of lazy, ignorant, prejudice, redneck bums, the whole lot of ya.
Again not about race.
Jul 26, 2008 12:31 PM
"Why don't the lazy white citizens of Fremont simply quit complaining about how hard the work is and how meager the wages are at Hormel and go reclaim their old jobs back."

Reclaim our jobs? Perhaps if I could past the front door. But I'm white (not to mention female), that's not likely to happen anytime soon. See how we can all make this about race. I bet all those crying racisim when it comes to illegal immigrants are saying that I'm crazy to think I wouldn't be hired just because I'm white and female.

Racisim goes both ways in this community. I am sick of it on both sides. I don't hate "Hispanics" or anyone else who isn't "white" and I don't like being lumped in with one stereotype based on the color of my skin either.

Both sides need to knock it off as it is not a race issue. Wanting things to be equal across the board does not make one ignorant. What about the immigrants who took the time and effort to show respect to this country and come here legally. Is it right that they had to do that while others just ignored it and made their way over here?

Stop making this a race issue. If the ordinance read you can't rent or give a job to a "Hispanic"(or any other race or group of people specifically) than I would be first in line with the outcry of racisim. That's not what this is. This ordinance goes across the board. EVERYONE who rents would be required to obtain and present the permit and EVERYONE who hires another would have to check the status of ALL.
Tired of Morons-Used to be Bobo
Jul 26, 2008 1:33 PM
To Non Fremont Resident:
Truer words have never been spoken.
I know Hormel gets tons of applications. How many from anglo kids/adults? I'll bet not many. Why? Like you said: the work's too hard (they're lazy) or they don't want to work next an Hispanic (they're a redneck.)
If ya'll are so indignant, then flood Hormel with apps. Take those jobs. Join the union. Demand higher wages.
But you won't. You're lazy. Its so much easier to work at OTC and the likes where you get your smoke breaks. Have you seen the fatties that "work" there?
Chic
Jul 26, 2008 1:47 PM
Dad, I don't blame you. Midland is a joke. I went there for 4 years; what a waste of time. It doesn't cost $30,000 a year though, dummy.
These people aren't rednecks. They're just sick and tired of puting up with the government's lack of emforcement on this issue. Say what you will but the illegal's immigration here is bringing an end to the middle class. Eventually it will be rich, poor, and nothing in between. It's ruining the economy. The only problem is the people in charge are already rich and have rich friends so why would they mind?
Non Fremont resisdent
Jul 27, 2008 12:02 AM
Don't make it a race issue you all say? Well it is a race issue, I don't see there being a problem with too many illegal Somalis, I see no complaining about the Chinese, or Italian, or ETC...
I'll tell you where the ignorance is in you idiots. You like to stereotype Hispanics, and by doing that, you delude yourself with what you believe is a higher number of illegals living in your community then what you think there is. You delude yourselves to think they are not paying taxes, or their just sending all that money to their relatives in another country, or the biggest BS lie, that they are working AND drawing welfare under another name, all at your poor little expense, hence, their must be TONS of illegal vermin about that is destroying your city. I have questions though. If they are not paying taxes, how did they get a job without a social security number? How did they get welfare? Do you REALLY believe there is this huge underground mass market of social security numbers floating around that illegals must somehow be circulating amongst each other as they take turns pillaging our America? And while were on that, if they are sending all the money to their families in another country, then what the hell are they living on... air? Are they getting bargain home prices thrown at them, or are you just mad they are living in the trailer home you should be, being rednecks and all. They are eating food purchased with American money and used to pay American workers. Beans and rice eaters you say? Well they are not going hungry, thats for sure, maybe that's why Hectors son Paco can afford the spinner rims, He doesn't need to dine at Applebees once a week. Not because his mom is getting a welfare check off your dime. Perhaps it just perplexs some,that if given $40 for the week to feed your family, the average illegal family will eat just well, while the average American will claim they are suffering and starving and still can't pay the bills. Why all the fear mongering about how the middle class is being removed with just the rich, and just the poor. Middle class income isn't changing one bit, it's changing hands. You can pin up all the laws and decrees about conditions for your stay in America, but true truely take back the middle class, it requires Americans to take back their need to survive by working hard no matter how much the job pays. Yeah, Hormel is giving people the shaft alright. Only the people that let them give it to them. Don't EVER turn your back on your community's like you people are doing by trying to push blame for it's downfall. Take it back.. You don't take it back with violence, or renting and hiring laws you take it back with your bodies and hard work. Fremont isn't quite as pathetic as Schuyler, Lexington, or Columbus, but Fremont COULD stand to lead by example to the other communities in Nebraska. Not by throwing up signs that say "YOU CAN'T BE HERE", But by creating an environment where the jobs simply aren't available unless they are "College level skilled or better" because everyone in the community works the lower scale jobs. Try another town, we no hav work for you here. Hormel won't control crap, if the workers control Hormel. Don't tell me you fear Hormel moving it's operations to Mexico.. OH NO, There go the jobs of about 3 or 4 white guys !! Those 3 or 4 white guys should of had a few hundred of their fellow employees backing them up to keep the jobs there. Actions speak louder then words. If you claim your not lazy, then take back your community the right way. Go do the jobs, and when your kids are 18, make them do the jobs too. That is how you eliminate illegal immigration.
If there are so few illegals whats the problem
Jul 27, 2008 9:29 AM
To Non-Fremont Resident-If we don't have an issue with illegal immigration, if we're merely living in some fantasy world, than what's the harm in passing this ordinance? In your mind there aren't really that many illegals here, so it won't really affect anyone.

To everyone else- The ordinance is across the board. Why are so many people assuming that only Hispanics will have to obtain and show proof of their renters permit when renting or to show proper identification (which would have to be properly verified) when being hired?

This ordinance does not target one race of people. To suggest that it does (by crying racisim) shows that YOU believe that only Hispanics would be targeted and that YOU believe that most of the illegal immigrants are Hispanic.

When I first heard of this the first thought in my mind wasn't, "Good, now we can get rid of all the Hispanics". Why not? Because I realize that illegal immigrants come in all races and that just because you're Hispanic doesn't mean that you're illegal. I don't associate one with the other.

If anything as a citizen I should be outraged not that this will target one race of people (because it doesn't, it targets illegal immigrants and being illegal has nothing to do with a race), but that as a legal, law abiding US citizen I am having more and more of my privacy stripped from me because the Federal government can't be bothered to enforce the laws they should be enforcing.
NEGOP
Jul 27, 2008 1:53 PM
To: Concerned
"it is not up to the city of Fremont to enforce a law that is already in effect at the federal level."
So if an illegal immigrant is breaking into your home, do you call the FBI or the Fremont Police? Who will respond to protect you?

To: Non Fremont resisdent
At least your name makes good sense.

To: ThisAmerican
BRAVO!! Finally some real sense of this matter. You should step up for the TWO positions that WILL become vacant: Jeff Rottenbery and Flakey Hagel. BOTH are terrible wastes of our air.

Yes, this is a federal problem. The government is by the PEOPLE - for the PEOPLE. IF one level will not function properly, then it is up to another to "enforce the laws of our nation" to PROTECT THE PEOPLE. I say BRAVO to Fremont, NE and stay the course!
Non Fremont resisdent
Jul 27, 2008 5:03 PM
It ain't nothing more then a "feel good" law. I really could care less one way or another if it passes. The issue is, what will it do for you.... NOTHING, NOTHING AT ALL. It can't and WON'T be enforced in anyway without racial profiling... Who will be the ones targeted for profiling? Europeans? Even if you think law enforcement, or ICE or whoever could legally get away with it, it still won't change the fact that Hormel has a job app lined up with 20 more names for each one eliminated. Not one of those names will be from Americans, they will all be from immigrants. And there is the problem. TO SAY, WELL, THIS AIN'T RACIST, IT'S JUST TARGETING ILLEGALS, is the 2nd biggest show of denial I have ever seen, the first one is the claim to being hardworking American.
Non Fremont resisdent
Jul 27, 2008 5:06 PM
P.S. Whatever happened to the concept of less government. You REALLY want your local government to handle this? Like I said before, do the honorable thing, and take back your jobs. No government assistance needed.
Tired of Morons-Used to be Bobo
Jul 27, 2008 7:55 PM
To: If there are so few illegals whats the problem.
Please don't insult everyone's intelligence.
To Non-Resident
Jul 27, 2008 10:04 PM
It can't and WON'T be enforced in anyway without racial profiling? You're joking right? What part of ALL RENTERS and ALL potiental employees do you NOT understand?