Beer or spirits? Commission listens to the debate

By Nancy Hicks /Lincoln Journal Star
Friday, Aug 01, 2008 - 10:54:17 am CDT

Whether you call them alcopops or flavored malt beverages, the central issue is the same.

It’s all about taxation.

Both sides presented their case to the Liquor Control Commission during a two-hour public hearing Thursday morning on the question of whether to tax flavored malt beverages as a beer.

To the liquor industry, the issue is simple: The federal government defines flavored malt beverages as beer.

It believes the state, which has historically followed federal definitions, should do the same and tax the drinks ” like Smirnoff Ice and Mike’s Hard Lemonade ” at the lower rate for beer, just as 46 other states do.

The commission doesn’t have the staff to test for compliance, so following the federal rules is “good public policy that preserves commission resources,” said Marc Sorini with the Flavored Beverage Coalition.

To the groups who work to curb underage drinking, the issue is equally clear.

Alcopops, as they call the drinks, fit under state law’s definition of a distilled spirit.

And controlling alcohol sales to “protect the health, safety and welfare of the people of Nebraska” is part of the Liquor Control Commission’s title and job, said Diane Riibe, executive director with Project Extra Mile, a statewide coalition working to curb teen drinking.

Forget federal rules. Pay attention to the plain language of state law and to the studies indicating the sweet, fruity-flavored beverages are a gateway drink for the very young, said those who favored the higher tax.

The commission should tax the drinks as a distilled spirit, thus adding about $2 to the cost of a six-pack and helping keep them out of the mouths of teens, they said.

Twice during Thursday’s hearing, commissioners or staff corrected teenagers who were testifying on behalf of the higher tax.

Newly appointed Commissioner Robert Batt of Omaha, at his first hearing, took exception to inferences in one teen’s testimony that the

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commission was responsible for underage drinking.

What about parental responsibility or the responsibility of teens themselves, he asked.

“I don’t want to see another dead body (teenager),” Batt said. But don’t place blame solely on the commission for problems that are broad societal issues, he said.

After his remarks one parent stepped up to defend parents who do monitor their children, but who know that Web sites aimed at teenage interests advertise the flavored drinks.

“My kids don’t have a lot of money. I would like to price my kids out of the alcopop arena,” said Tim Regler, father of six.

The two sides also differed on how the beverage should be described ” as a flavored beer or a soda hybrid.

Humans have been adding flavor to malt beverages since the Egyptians put honey and spices in their beer, said Gary Blinn, the Anheuser-Busch wholesaler in Norfolk.

Without any flavoring, beer would taste like soupy oatmeal, Blinn said, and pointed out that flavored beverages make up one-half of 1 percent of his sales and are declining.

Wildberry Jack, Watermelon Spike, Green Apple Bite, Blackjack Cola, these drinks are a kind of cross between soda pop and distilled spirits, Riibe said.

She and others said the beverages are stripped of their beer qualities, with flavors and sweeteners added.

“Calling this flavored beer is a fraud,” said James E. Mosher, Alcohol Policy Consultations of California.

These products are not beer. “One look (at the packaging) can tell you. One drink can tell you. One kid can tell you,” said Riibe.

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Whatever
Aug 1, 2008 11:56 AM
Once again - people trying to push the blame of underage drinking onto someone else. Right now a 6-pack of Mike's is already around $6-7, you add $2 in taxes and I will not even buy them. Were would this extra $2 per sale go to? Funding for project extra mile? So maybe this is a personal issue for Miss Riibe to get more money for her orginization?

I am well over 21 and I like these drinks in the summer months. Why do I have to pay the price for some stupid teenagers that don't understand about being underage.

Maybe parents should know more about their kids are and what they are doing on the internet. Don't blame society for your faults of not teaching YOUR children the outcome of underage drinking.
whatever
Aug 1, 2008 12:35 PM
Umm, so what about the 'flavored beers'? Ex: Miller Chill etc. Is that to be considered an Alcopop because flavor is added to the beer. Frankly, I enjoy the flavored malt beverages and am well above the legal limit. People are trying to regulate things because parents can't do their jobs in educating their children.
jake
Aug 1, 2008 2:01 PM
wait a min here. the feds already have regulations on this so how can the state change them? would that not be wrong? someone could be sued over this since the state might be over steeping the federal laws and regulations.
h
Aug 3, 2008 5:31 PM
I don't see where they get that these 'Alcopops' are marketed to underage kids. I am WELL over the legal age and these are the only thing I drink. Don't most teens just drink beer? What about wine coolers? They don't taste real alcohol-y. I think that most kids either just drink whatever their parents have at home already, or some steal what they want to drink. I don't think that raising the price via taxes will discourage them from geting them. Most teens have more disposable income than I do!
Serious Mom
Aug 4, 2008 1:03 PM
I'm with the advocates. The U.S. is a little slow to catch up....Australia and the U.K. have been tackling the alcopops issue for awhile now. Shame on any Nebraska commissioner who does not support the proper taxation of these youth-appealing products that are MADE with distilled spirits and not "just a beer". (That's a fallacy generated by the alcohol industry that's being used to pull the wool over the eyes of taxpayers and state government officials)

Just today an Australian news outlet reported that deaths among girls were on the rise...and attributed this to alcopops.

The study states:


"Alcopops may be implicated in the increased risk girls face of dying from alcohol-related causes, a long-term study tabled in State Parliament yesterday has found.


The study of child deaths over a decade found the risk for girls increased by 37 per cent while for boys it declined by 17 per cent over the two periods studied, 1996 to 2000 and 2001 to 2005.


As well, the risk for 14- to 15-year-olds of dying from alcohol-related causes rose dramatically - by 152 per cent over the two periods - while it declined for 16- to 17-year-olds.


The study, Trends In Child Deaths In NSW 1996-2005 , was compiled by the NSW Child Death Review Team to identify changes in child-death rates for specific causes and to strengthen prevention measures.


The report said: 'The increase in alcohol-related deaths for females and the decline for males across the two periods may result from several factors, including the introduction of alcopops … first sold in Australia in 1995, which particularly target females.'


The NSW Children's Commissioner, Gillian Calvert, said she was thankful that the numbers of deaths involved were small - 145 over the 10 years. Boys accounted for most of the deaths - 105 - but over the past five years of the survey the girls' death rate increased and the boys' death rate declined.


'It may be a trend we need to look at to see if there is a pattern emerging," Ms Calvert said.


'The trend parallels the introduction of alcopops and it requires further investigation....'


Suicide and car fatalities were associated with the alcohol-related deaths, along with poisoning, falls and drownings. "

C'mon Nebraska, don't give in to the powerful alcohol lobby! Give our Law Enforcement, Physicians, Parents, and Young People some badly needed ammunition to help kids make it safely through adolescence!
h
Aug 5, 2008 12:12 AM
to Serious Mom-
First of all, don't quote bits and pieces of studies to support your cause. Any one on any position can find piece-meal items to support any opinion.

Second, if the parents do their job properly with education and supervision, then the law will be irrelevant, the youth won't need the law to tell them what the right thing to do is, they will know because it is what they have been taught. Parents need to take the ultimate responsibility for their children-raising them right, teaching them ethics, responsibility, values, etc.

Before anyone blasts me, I am a parent of two children, so I do know what it is like to try to teach them these things. I know that it is difficult and there are many outside pressures, but if you stick to it, parents influence will always be there.