Cedar Bluffs chairman faces recall

By Tammy Real-McKeighan/Fremont Tribune
Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 - 10:43:03 am CDT

In two weeks, Cedar Bluffs residents will go to the polls to decide whether to recall Village Board Chairman Claire Grosse.

The April 7 recall effort comes after resident Nathan Williams submitted petitions to Saunders County Clerk Patti Lindgren on Feb. 20.

Lindgren said 116 of the 130 signatures were valid. During a special meeting by the village board on Feb. 26, Grosse said she would not resign.

“The people of this community gave me a job to do and I don’t quit,” Grosse told the Tribune. “I believe in finishing what I start and if they decide they want to put someone else in there, then that’s what will be.

“I believe I’ve done things the correct way and sometimes that’s hard for some people to deal with.”

The recall comes after a state audit that found two statements for village credit cards issued for then-public utilities superintendent Clarence Thurlow’s use. The cards included charges for what appears to be a monthly membership to a pornographic Web site. Thurlow, employed by the city for about 27 years, has since resigned, but denied any wrongdoing.

Saunders County Sheriff Kevin Stukenholtz said an investigation by law enforcement has not been completed, but no charges have been filed against Thurlow at this time. Stukenholtz said he needs to coordinate with the village board to obtain some additional details.

The state auditor’s office also found other irregularities, listed in a 12-page report. Issues included overtime paid to two employees without documentation of their having worked the hours and the purchase of more than $2,400 in supplies in quantities that appear to be excessive, including 2,700 trash bags, said State Auditor Mike Foley.

The report includes payments and credit card expenses linked to Thurlow and his wife, Kim, the village’s former village clerk/treasurer. Grosse said Kim Thurlow worked for the village for about five years before she was fired on Oct. 28.

Citing the state auditor’s report, Williams, who circulated the recall petitions, said the responsibility not only lies on the employees, but board members themselves.

“If you hold employees to a standard and if they’re both terminated, why doesn’t that standard apply to those who are ultimately in a position of responsibility?” he asked. “The best interest of the community is not being served in my mind’s eye.”

Grosse contends, however, the board has been working with problems that began long before its tenure.

“We were handed a big mess,” she said. “We were a completely brand new board. Everybody either resigned or was voted off so we had five new board members in a two-month period with absolutely no experience.”

Grosse also mentioned one of the difficulties was dealing with the fallout of a previous clerk.

“Her books were awful and the clerk we had at the time (Kim Thurlow) was struggling to get those books straight,” Grosse said.

Kim Thurlow was fired because she was unable to meet deadlines and didn’t perform tasks the board asked her to do on a regular basis, Grosse said.

During Kim Thurlow’s tenure, the village was fined more than $20,000 for missing federal deadlines for reporting payroll information in a timely manner, Grosse said. That occurred in the two years prior to 2008. In the last calendar year, she missed three out of four deadlines.

In November, the five-member board hired Tammy Ramaker to be the new village clerk and Grosse complimented her performance.

“She’s doing tremendously,” Grosse said.

Grosse has seen progress.

“It’s been a very rough road, but we are finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel,” Grosse said. “We’re finally getting things straightened out.”

Grosse, who is paid $60 a meeting, said she puts in between 20 to 30 hours a week at city hall.

“I’m not the only board of trustee member who does that,” she said. “This board is really investing a lot of their personal time getting this town moving in the right direction.”

Grosse also said Williams circulated the petitions because he is angry at her over a personal matter, something he denies. She also pointed out the special recall election is going to cost taxpayers, something Lindgren confirmed.

Lindgren compared the upcoming recall to one for Ithaca board trustee Dwight Hansen in July 2008. Hansen retained his position and the recall election cost was $1,900.

Taxpayers in Cedar Bluffs, which has 413 registered voters, will pick up the bill for their own recall.

“It’s a little village and it will cost them a lot of money,” Lindgren said.

Lindgren predicts that Cedar Bluff’s recall will cost taxpayers there at least as much as Ithaca’s, if not a little more because they have more voters, which means more ballots and more time.

That distresses Grosse.

“Had he done this early in the fall, we could have done this at the General Election and it wouldn’t have cost us anything,” she said.

Williams said more than 70 percent of the people asked to sign the petition did so. Most signatures were collected by three people; one man collected five or six, he said.

“It took us 60 hours to get the necessary signatures,” Williams said, adding that they had a month to collect them. “There were those who said they knew her and weren’t comfortable signing, but they were comfortable voting.”

Grosse said she sees this as a win-win situation.

“If people vote to retain me, I win because the people have confidence in what I’m doing,” she said. “And if they vote to recall me, I still win because I won’t have to deal with people like this person who’s spearheading the recall election.”

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Cedar Bluffs Recall No Brains
Mar 24, 2009 1:42 PM
Do you really want to be like Ithacha? Many of you who signed the petition are freinds of the Thurlows... thats great... but dont do something just to put forth revenge on a decision you do not agree with. Keep in mind MANY other officials other then Cedar Bluffs... have pointed at the work/things they did and basically have made a laughing stock of the CB community. So now you have a board who is trying to get stuff done. Let them get the job done. CB residents do yourself a favor.... drive through Ithacha... then drive through CB.... If you start following examples of things Ithacha has done... guess what your town will end up looking like Ithacha. No one looking forward... just a lot of backwards thinking.... becuase all people who want to look foward will move out of the commnunity just as what has happened to Ithacha the last 15 years.
Cori Hoffman
Mar 24, 2009 1:54 PM
Living in rural Cedar Bluffs, I haven't heard all the details with this recall. It strikes me that Claire Grosse is only one member of the board and carries only one vote. The other board members would be just as responsible. A recall usually divides a community. How sad. Why not wait until the next election and cast your vote then?
Sounds good
Mar 24, 2009 3:06 PM
"If they vote to recall me, I still win because I won’t have to deal with people like this" ..... Sounds like she really enjoys her job...
Cathy
Mar 24, 2009 4:31 PM
Sounds like CB has created its own problems. "We were handed a big mess,” she said. “We were a completely brand new board. Everybody either resigned or was voted off so we had five new board members in a two-month period with absolutely no experience.” This statement by Ms. Grosse speaks volumes. I do not know you, Claire, but I do know small-town politics. It seems that your personal vendetta is coming back to bite you.
concerned citizen
Mar 24, 2009 4:34 PM
If Mrs. Grosse is recalled does Mr. Williams or any of those responsible for circulating the petition plan to take her place? I seriously doubt it. Mr. Williams property is for sale so he obviously doesnt even plan to stick around to help pay for the recall. When the community realized that he wasn't serving on the school board in a way that best served our district, he wasnt re-elected to a second term. Too bad he doesn't extend the same courtesy to other elected officials.The members of the current town board have had a big mess to deal with. We should try to assist them, give them moral support and pray for them. They have a tough job to do and deserve our thanks for all they do. It is very sad that this issue has divided our community. It's been a great place to live and raise a family. I urge you all to vote against the recall and let the current members of the town board do their jobs.
About Time
Mar 24, 2009 5:47 PM
At least she's honest for once in stating that the auditors report brought to light things she did not know about. But she should have! Continually blaming the last board has is a worn out excuse. The board for the past two years is completely disfunctional, much worse that the previous board Just read the auditors report and open your eyes. Several current members of the board have been there three years and have wasted a lot of our money by not watching spending at all. Please do us a favor and just quit, all three of you. Yes some of you would like to just ignore the past and act like this disaster never happened but things are not better, actually they are much worse. We citizens deserve to have honest people on the board. Anyone that has taken the time to see this board in action knows the complete lies that are repeated at every meeting. Other board members that are present and just sit on their thumbs are just as guilty. Give Nate a chance, oh wait you won't because you don't like him and you don't care about the town do you. If you haven't grown a spine by now don't hold your breath. Nate is the only one with the stones to get things done right for the town, the rest of you should be ashamed!
raised eyebrow
Mar 25, 2009 2:43 PM
Sort of stunned at the tone of your opinions folks...I'd sell my house too if I thought I had to live in a community that believed there is only one way of thinking! How many voters do they have...450??? Well, almost 30% signed the petition...I am sure many more didn't sign because they "don't want to get involved ". Although, after reading all of the comments, I can understand why they are hiding. Here a guy sees wrong doing, calls it out and is being called a pouter because he has a sign in his yard? Sounds like taking a stand and not pouting to me. If he were pouting wouldn’t he keep his mouth shut and move? I don't know the details, but I do admire his courage to stand up for what he (and others) believes is right. We can all be pretty brave when hiding behind these anonymous blogs! It takes a bit of chutzpa to take public action! Cheers Mr. Williams!
CB Taxpayer
Mar 25, 2009 4:26 PM
Whatever your opinion of the town board is, you have to agree that the recall election is totally uncalled for at this time. If a recall was neccessary it COULD have and SHOULD have been held during the general election last fall. It would have been at no expense to the taxpayers of this community. This is an expense that our community simply cannot afford. I suspect that it not only is a personal vendetta against Claire, but also against the community that didn't re-elect Nate to a second term to the school board.
About Time
Mar 25, 2009 4:53 PM
To Disagree: Yes I am serious! He had more to do with getting the state auditors office to investigate than anyone else. "If" you actually knew what you were talking about and read this report you would see it is the best thing that has happened to the town in a long time, Claire admits this in this story. That is why we now have major improvements in 2 of the three city positions. Of course other people will be glad to take the credit for this while bad mouthing him at the same time. It's funny to hear her acting like they were handed a big mess two years ago. Since she likes to bring up the past so much why don't you ask her why the first thing they did was purchase the new police cruiser for $39,000 that we did not need. It seems to me that this "inexperienced" board hopped right in with 2 feet two years ago. They even found the time to start up a reserve police officer program. They purchased 10 handguns for 5 reserves, these guys were "good". This was and is still a big secret so don't tell anyone. You and I paid for the left over 4 or so guns but that is none of your business in case you or any other taxpayer should ask. Certainly you took the time to find out where the missing gun is didn't you!?!?! I wouldn't think that it's legal for someone to just buy it under the table without any board approval... She allowed our previous police officer to go to training and schools all over the country with our money, he was hardly ever here! Does Bomb School sound really necessary in CB? Unless he was learning how to make them for the 4th of July, I think not! He drove our cruiser all over the country and then home at night to Bellevue thanks to her. How did that help the town? Is that where our tax money needs to go? Do you even have a clue as to how high your taxes are? These problems with the police dept did not exist before Claire and Co took the bull by the horns. They had time for all of this but could not take a look at the credit card bill. Our water system is also falling apart because there are very many non-functioning meters and valves. This board required nothing of the previous utilities superintendent. The last city clerk also costed us over $20,000 dollars in fines because of sending in tax withholdings late. Make sure you thank Nate the next time you see him because he is the one that actually took the bull by the horns. Tim even voted to keep the last clerk for crying out loud. You darn right I am serious about Nate taking Claire's position. Your right though it won't happen because they do not care what is best for the town, it's personal on "their" part. He won't get the credit but he personally fixed the problems with the clerk and the superintendent positions by causing the auditors investigation. The problems of the past two years with the police dept were caused by Claire but she will only take credit for fixing them.
raised eyebrow
Mar 25, 2009 7:19 PM
So what you are saying is ....if a wrong has happened, and if there is a cost to righting that wrong, the wrong should not be corrected unless it is done in a timely manner? Didn't realize there was a statutory time limit on righting wrongs. Just wonder how much more money could be inappropriately spent if the wrong is not righted? Might that cost you even more?? Hmmmm Doubt that the cost of your slander can ever be recouped for anyone…the accuser or the accused! Something to think about as you smear and hide behind the blog!
concerned citizen
Mar 25, 2009 9:01 PM
As I and others have read these comments it is really sad to see a town that has such problems!!!! It seems as though alot of people that are supposedly ADULTS pointing fingers and not knowing the full details acting worse than most two year olds and thinking they can handle and fix alot of problems that have been created in the past years. Most of all that have signed the petition for the recall have not even attended a board meeting so how can they really say that this board is not doing their job??? It seems as though quite a few positives have been taken care of and the credit and time that this board should get seems to go down the tubes with mindless wonders,shallow brains, who have very little concern about the town of Cedar Bluffs. I don't understand how Nate Williams thinks he is SUPERMAN of Cedar Bluffs it seems as though he has alot of personal issues and personal vendettas due to he did not get on the school board, town board, and seems to have had issues with a business in Cedar that did not go well as he could not handle this business??? It seems as though the town would be better off without such shallow minded people!!!! I hope that the town can come together as it has always been a nice community to be in but if you really are thinking of the town than all should go to meetings and help put POSITIVE things together so Cedar Bluffs can continue to be a GREAT community!! Attend the meetings and JUDGE for yourself, don't let SUPERMAN judge for you!!!!
Wishing I were Louis Lane
Mar 25, 2009 9:28 PM
Dear Mr. Concerned Citizen,
Why not be an adult yourself, stop name calling and sign your name? You seem to have taken it to a child like level with your name calling and comments about Mr. Williams, sadly you aren't MAN or WOMAN enough to state your name or reputation publicly...shame on you! You need to sit in a corner and think about your actions! Your's truly, Wishing I were Louis Lane
Farm boy
Mar 26, 2009 4:29 AM
Hey people if your not happy with whats going on in CB move to Ames! We are getting a new strip Club soon!
JSR
Mar 26, 2009 12:17 PM
While I do not live in the Village of Cedar Bluffs, I do live in the school district & my daughter attends school there. I did not vote for Nate Williams for school board last election because when I read the minutes of the meetings, he was either absent or abstained from voting on several issues. What is the point of being in that position and not voting? Wasn't he elected to make decisions? Hope his house sells soon! Sounds like he's just a malcontent.
cedar bluffs
Mar 26, 2009 12:51 PM
I was told that Mike Sweeney and Nate were the ones that found all of this out about all the money that was taken~~ KUDOS TO BOTH OF THEM!!!!!
As for Claire she needs to be out of there~~
JSR
Mar 26, 2009 3:09 PM
Re: Cedar Bluffs
One of the people you mentioned had illegal gambling devices in the bar when they owned it and they ran from the cops for another offense while serving as a village board member. How upstanding!

Pot meet kettle!
actions
Mar 26, 2009 3:13 PM
I have said it since the previous "witchhunt". If Claire provided "fudged" info to the state auditor and now all of this concerning misspent monies as well as missing equipment. Should she not be the one being INVESTIGATED by the sheriff's dept and not the Thurlow's??????? COME ON PEOPLE wake up to her arrogance regarding the people she was elected to serve.
About Time
Mar 26, 2009 6:25 PM
To Actions: Regardless of who is being investigated it is taking place because of citizens reports of wrong doing. Not because the board was doing its job. In fact there may not have been any crimes committed by anyone but the Auditors report makes it clear they were not doing their job.

To JSR: Those mistakes happened outside of village hall and did not make him a bad board member, unlike the current problems. Yes he should have resigned before a recall petition was filed for but at least he was big enough to resign before it got to this point. Bill Clinton liked to enjoy a good cigar from time to time but that did not make him a bad president.
Cant Swim
Mar 26, 2009 9:18 PM
I am completely AMAZED at how my water bill for a household of 3 went down by at least 15,000 since the Thurlows' have been gone! I tried to go to the Village office to figure out why but they were always closed or out-to lunch. Now, I wonder what was really going on behind that locked door. Who ever pushed for the investigation of their accounting/office practices, THANK YOU!
Tired of it all
Mar 26, 2009 10:51 PM
You know what, just let Claire and the board do their job. Our poor little town has been dragged thru the mud enough. It started with Char and it's ending Kim and the criminal. Go back to your beer soaked world drunks of cedar and let Nate move out of town, all because the squad drives by his house and it bothers him. Even though, they maybe saving a life of someone he may know. Let our little town finally heal.
JSR
Mar 27, 2009 8:43 AM
Re: About Time To JSR

Integrity is the key word involved! If the person I mentioned had integrity he wouldn't have had to resign. If he was making good decisions regarding his personal life, a person would hope that they would make good decisions on behalf of their constituents and the trust trust they put on his shoulders. Running afoul of the law is not good decision making.

The sad thing about almost any small town is that nepotism and cronyism run rampant no matter who's involved.

Hopefully the town can get through this and move on. Everyone needs to step back, take a DEEP breath and move forward with positive and pro-active decisions. Being reactive is not productive. Hiring Tammy R. was a brilliant idea. She's a top notch individual.
jake
Mar 27, 2009 9:42 AM
RE :About Time

if you took the time to look into what you are talking about you would see that you are wrong. the officers bought the guns from the city. so the city spent the money and got it back all in a legal way. and just so you know there were 5 glock hand guns, 1 M-16, 1 M-4 and 1 12gague Remington police issue shotgun. the boom school was paid for through a GRANT from the government so no charge to the town. if you walked by the police hall right across from the fire hall and looked in the vehicle bay every night you would have saw the police vehicle there. according to state law it can only be used for police activity's. not as a personal vehicle unless city rules say otherwise. instead of saying things that you know nothing about go dig in the record books and find the facts. the reserve officers were volunteer so again no cost to the town.
actions
Mar 27, 2009 12:46 PM
To about time: So why can't Claire be "big enough" to step up and resign instead of letting this whole ugly scenario go on any longer???? PLEEEAAASEE DO NOT compare anybody to Bill Clinton as he was not actually a very good president let alone a role model for anyone!!
just my thoughts
Mar 28, 2009 9:51 AM
Instead of blaming Claire or Nate the town should be looking at the root of the problem meaning Kim and the Criminal. Whether Claire should be recalled, or Nate introducing the recall... people should realize that if city employees did their job in a honest fashion this problem would and should never exist. Maybe Claire made some mistakes, but she didn't deceive nor steel any money. Actions... At least Nate W. is TAKING ACTIONS NOT TALKING THE TALK.