LETTER: Petition leader offended by comments

Hey, John:
Here's why the petition is racist:
Because if there were 2,000 illegal Swedes in Fremont, nobody would've known the difference and there never would have been a petition. You know it, I know it, and so does everybody else.
So, please don't insult the intelligence of the rest of the people in Fremont who didn't sign the petition.

Methinks he doth protest too much.

I doubteth sincerely that if our immigrant population consisted of Swedes or other northern Europeans we would not have the backlash we have now. No offeseth to any Swedes out thereth, especially those in Oaklandeth.

Speaking of guarantees, I guarantee you that not all immigrants came through Ellis Island. Checketh thy history, especially of the west coasteth. Many came thru Ellis, but not all.

Additionally, not all immigrants learned the language way back wheneth. I recalleth hearing of relatives of mineth who were first generation who did not learn English. They spoketh only German, Czech and Italian. Newspapers printed in languages other than English were available in the Midwest up until around 1930. I believe our great-great-grandparentseth read/published them. Eth.

I have also heardeth vile language being used to describe people on both sides of this issueeth. I believe that a reduction of such language and a return to civil discussion is in ordereth.

Good lucketh to those with the courage to unite our community. You will needeth it.

Mr. Wiegert:
Could you please cite some credible sources that back up your claims about illegal immigration in Fremont. I ask this because you failed to list them in your letter.

The group that gathered at this picnic pointed out some things that are really going on in this town. The idea that the anti-immigration ordinance group was actually offended by this is ludicrous.

Don't insult my intelligence by trying to pass this ordinance off as not being racist. I say if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck.

When members of Fremont's Hispanic population, who are here legally and pay taxes, get harassed on a daily basis by our fine population of blue hairs and mullets, it tells me that something stinks about this ordinance and the movement behind it.

Bo Bo and the rest are you saying coming here illegaly you are condoning?
What will be your stance when one of these poor people uses your ID or Social Security numbere or when they have an accident with their car and have on insurance or legal drivers Lic.
and you end up holding the wrong end of the stick or lose all you have invested in your Scoial Security account. You can only blame yourself for supporting the illegals

If your group isn't racist John (you and your group of people out there getting signatures) then answer me this: Why were your people telling all Hispanics to go back to Mexico?

Funny, all the people they told to go back to Mexico have never stepped foot in another country besides USA.

Racist? Uh, duh!

Well said and God Bless you Mr. Wiegert for all you have done. Was the picnic offensive? I don’t think so but I can see Mr. Wiegert’s point. What I found interesting was only two cultural groups were invited to a cultural awareness picnic in a town rich with cultural diversity.

I’d like to ask a question of a question. If anyone that supports lawful immigration is a witless bigoted rube. Then, if all “Immigrant” in Fremont are legal, as stated repeatedly by the “Enablers”; who would mind if we deported a group that “Nebraska is Home” claims doesn’t exist? Seriously, I really don’t understand the revolving argument for lawless behavior.

If you read local news, a German girl was just deported in Omaha. The young woman has no memory of her German birth and is married to an American. Where was “Nebraska is Home” when it came to her defense? As Nebraska Appleseed told me right to my face, no guessing, their interest is only in Mexicans. I thought that position was immensely bigoted and I told them so at the time. Hearing such things really makes you wonder who is working for their own personal interests. It’s a very good question to ask who has something to gain by blocking a legal vote on a Petition that stood strong to a Declaratory Judgment.

Source after source has been sited and verified; people need to listen to each other. This debate has ended up proving that everyone is more alike than some are willing to admit. Race, Nation of birth, Education, Religion and many other traits mean nothing save as a way we identify ourselves. Our Nation and State reflect this incredible diversity held together by the common rule of law. I proudly admit to being one of the very first to sign the Petition and still stand by the notion laid out in our State Motto & Constitution, “Equality Before the Law”.

John--Don't pay any attention to these mental midgets that are giving you a bad time about be a racist. You call a spade a spade. If most of the illegals are coming from Mexico you go after them. Just because they are from Mexico we are called racist. If 12 million Swedes came here illegally and we would go after them because they broke the law we be called racist. This is just the mentally of some of the people in Fremont so don't lose any sleep over it. You got your point over to everybody so don't let this mentally challanged people give you a bad time. Stick it out. As you know most people are behind you anyway so don't let the cowards scare you. They sure as don't scare me.

I agree 100% with "disguted." Cowardice has no place in our society and I will not live in fear of cowardly people either!

But just to be safe, I won't use my real name.

If wanting to get rid of the ones that are here illegaly, no matter what race they are make me a racist then I am proud to be one. I am " by rule of law" and nothing else. If the majority of them are Hispanic then they did it to themselves. I didn't force them to come here illegaly and nether did you

Folks...why are you working so hard to turn this effort into something it isn't.

It is about UNITY - which comes from greater understanding, education and awareness. What can possibly be wrong with that?

I realize that some of you will do "whatever it takes" to push your "anti immigration" agenda -- go for it...but in the process you have completely missed the point of what these CITIZENS are trying to do and the message they are sharing.

There are plenty of places to beat your drum about legal vs. not legal...but this isn't it.

I guess they only thing I can think of is that you are afraid that if the folks in Fremont actually get to know each other and start to grow in understanding and awareness of the cultural diversity in our community that your effort will fail.

So continue on with your message of legal vs. illegal - but do it somewhere else.

You're falling for being baited, they aren't even worth putting up a well thought out reasoned rebuttal to. It's a tactic and nothing more. We are conditioned to cringe and cower at the charge of racism, it can cost you your cedibility, your social status and your employment and they know it. It's cheap, it's easy, it requires no thought or skill with verbage or grasp of any meaningful fact or basis in truth. "You're a racist" gets tossed into the mix and the topic is derailed and sidetracked and they win. They don't have to post facts to prove their claims it's cheaper to legalize them, they don't have to counter the proof of increased criminal and gang activity, they don't have to explain away the drain on social services. Nope, "You're a racist"- I win, I win, discussion over!! I've followed the discussions, I know which side has supplied facts and statistics and which side relies on one-upmanship in do-gooding and tugging at heartstrings. Let them have their picnic, hold each other and whine, cry, sob and snivel about how wonderful they are and how evil we are. They aren't the sort of folks to let logic and facts get in the way.

These comments always make me laugh. John may call a spade a spade, but like many others on this board, I call a racist a racist. If a million Swedes moved to Fremont nobody would say anything to them because they have the same skin color as you. Or do you harrass every new white person who moves to town to verify they are an American citizen?

If the blue hairs and rednecks in this town keep pushing their racist views, the city will eventually be sued to to racial discrimination. Don't try and say that people who don't agree with you are welcoming illegals, cause we are not. We are just not close-minded and unwilling to accept change in our community. This is also why Fremont is stuck in the 70s. Sooner or later you are going to have to accept the fact that not everybody in Fremont is going to be a white.

The Unity Picnic was, in part, organized by the same group that packed Fremont High last July during the now infamous City Council meeting. I recognize the people that where present at both. With a long history of disinformation from Nebraska Appleseed it’s only logical to view their efforts with a hint of skepticism. This however doesn’t mean that everything they do is a bad idea. Many, such as me, are reserving our full support until we understand the motives and flow of dollars behind the “Nebraska is Home” movement. Kissing a bull on the butt doesn’t mean you’re eating steak. Before you ask Fremont to take a big bite of this new idea we’d like to know what we’re being fed.

Those of us that believe in Liberty and Justice for all understand that it’s only possible if the same rules (laws) apply to all equally. As odd as it sound those that support controlling Illegal Immigration are more compassionate to those wishing to make the United States their home. Allowing select people to run rough sod over our town is neither compassionate nor sustainable. If we collapse the current system for Immigration to permit unlawful entry then we lose not only our national identity but our moral soul.

Carl,

You said only 2 cultural groups were invited to Sunday's picnic. Why do you insist on lying?

This was open to EVERYONE, including my Vietnamese family.

You act like hand written invitations were mailed out to Hispanic's only.

Why are people so upset over a picnic?! There is seriously something wrong with the majority of you on these posts.

BOBO & Iron Fist: Great comments

What bothers me the most about John Weigerts beliefs and actions - which he has every right too, but he is a school teacher and there is no place for this in his occupation, does he teach hispanic kids
or is every student white, it make me question his morals to be a teacher.
I would not want my kid taught by him.
your not born to hate - your are taught it.

To Tim R...Why are you working so hard to protect illegal aliens? It is real simple then from your point of view - YOU open your house, you feed, educate, pay their insurances, taxes and whatever else taxpayers give to them (I don't want that $$$ burden). This is the place for us to beat our drum because it is a FACT - what don't you get about legal and illegal. It amazes me how you and others want to turn this around. Don't cry about what you pay for health insurance, taxes, etc and if you don't have a job because you are paying for illegal aliens.

To everyone in Fremont and to those who are on the outside looking in. We have a real problem on our hands and it's not illegal immigrants.

Fremont is a city that is struggling to move into the 21st. Century; however a small group of people who live in the Land of OZ, are trying everything they can to insure that Fremont does not join the rest of the real world.

All the people who adhere to logic and reason need to stand up to these bullies and tell them enough is enough.

Since you asked, Andy, I do not support illegal immigration. Just as I am not a supporter of ignorant racism, against which there is no law.
And to Sean, yes, you're right, racism cannot be "proved" unless someone actually admits to being such.
And that's the problem, and I don't need statistics, a petition, a law, or a white hood to tell me that Fremont is an overwhelmingly racist community. And just as "racist" should not be the end of an argument, neither does the redneck hillbilly mantra of "illegal is illegal" exempt someone from being a bigot. I've been here long enough where I can smell it just as sure as I can smell the stench from Hormel.
I hope that Obama gets his way and gives a free pass to as many illegals in this country as possible. Just to tick off the necks. I would LOL.
PS. Sold my house, and I'll soon be scrubbing the Fremont off of me. Woo Hoo.

Some are claiming racism then continue on calling people "blue hairs". Seems ironic.

A line has been crossed in uncalled for attacks. Mr. Wiegert is a fine man with a sound moral compass. Anyone that dare impugn his honor much less question his professionalism has never met him.

The vile hatred that appears to be a constant in this debate comes from the self proclaimed compassionate side. I’ve never read an over the top racist remarks from those that actually believe all men are created equal. To claim the moral high ground by pigeon holing people on skin color or perceived Nation of Origin is the definition of bigotry, oh enlightened ones. If the “Enablers” really believed their rhetoric then perhaps they should do more for real Immigrants.

Demanding that only one group of people be granted special exemption from the law, in violation of the law, is not an argument. As one poster pointed out, the facts regarding Legal verses Illegal Immigration has been discussed adnauseam. Perhaps in place of name calling those that demand that others educate themselves should take their own advice. I spend hours researching solid facts, not repeating talking points from groups with an agenda.

Its all a shell game. Nebraska Appleseed has ties to ACORN. You no the group in trouble in multiple states for voter registration fraud and the same group that will be doing the 2010 census but wont ask if your in the country legally.
The ones who the seiu "Service Employees International Union" hired to protest AIG employees for getting big bonuses while nothing was said about freddy or fanie getting there million dollar bonuses.Wake up people your being lied too.

To LovesIrony:

A racist is someone who purposely targets one group of people based on their racial background.

Blue Hairs is a description of a group of old people who are set in there ways and won't change there stance on any issues because that's how they have lived their entire lives.

There is no racial undertone to Blue Hairs, in this comment its just a descriptive phrase for all the older people in Fremont who hate anybody who doesn't look like them.

Since you brought it up, Carl, Mr. Wiegert's (and anyone else's for that matter) professionalism, honor, and moral compass becomes a subject of scrutiny as soon as he (like you) become a quasi-public figure by writing letters to the editor and/or running a write-in mayoral campaign.
For example, I don't know (but I can guess) what your intentions are for the next mayor's race, but you get a lot of free pub on these boards.
As for Mr. Wiegert, he assumes that anyone that is against the petition is for illegal immigration.
That's wrong.

Sean - I couldn't have said it better myself! I'm glad that some people still have a little common sense.

Bobo - What about the Hispanics who are here legally who are angry about the illegal immigration problem? Are they racists too? (Oh! and don't get excited! I said Hispanic because whether you want to admit it or not most of our illegals come from countries south of the border.)

Can anyone else hear the deuling banjos playing in the background, as they read all of this "what part of illegal don't you understand" garbage?

Dear Unreal:

Thanks for the explanation, now I understand. It's not okay to stereotype people based on their skin tone, but it is okay to stereotype people based on their age.
Still seems ironic.

Speaking about who is behind what, did anyone else read an article in The Reader a few weeks ago entitled, "Who is Kris Kobach?"

If the people at the core of the petition drive are not aware of the roots of Mr. Kobach, they should do some homework. Ask, ask, ask why he is taking such an interest in this, and ask, ask, ask how much his involvement has cost other communities. Finally, ask, ask, ask who he is associated with. It isn't the Boy Scouts, BTW.

The petition organizers are being had and I feel sorry for them--no one should be manipulated like these people are being manipulated. Their good intentions are being undercut by forces much larger than themselves.

Please wake up, folks. There is something VERY ugly behind this.

Lovesirony,

Seems the host of this site has taken their side and all the anti-white rhetoric one can muster is allowed but at the same time if you point this out and give examples with too fine a point your post won't see the light of day. You can hurl around sister-kissers and toothless rednecks with abandon, while no other form of stereotyping is allowed. Keep up the cheerleading F T!!

Me and my friends really enjoy reading all these comments from both sides. However, the fact is we're here to stay even if the ordinance is passed! So get used to seeing us around town and at other locations than just Walmart.

I shouldn’t have been surprised by the latest vile attack from the “Enablers” again completely devoid of supportive facts. Mr. Kobach personal history is remarkable and his professional career stellar. I have a copy of his professional resume for those that are interested. The reason that he’s the subject of a targeted smear is his unwavering devotion to his Country. Yes, Mr. Kobach is a Patriot thus worthy of mindless ridicule from nameless individuals. Assuming you know someone then attacking them on your failed assumptions is mentally dishonest.

As one of those that has a public profile I’d much prefer not to have I politely request the nameless attackers step forward and proudly take custody of your ideas. When you agree to publicly defend your ideas in front of your neighbors without hiding behind assorted supportive front groups then, perhaps, Fremont will start to take you seriously.

Bill Shakespeare,

99% of the ugliness is coming from your side via personal smear, inuendo, name calling and outright slander. Your side has tried to take it from an anti-illegal movement to an anti-hispanic movement. There are Hispanic families in Fremont who have been here for generations. My best friend is Hispanic, born in Scotts Bluff and believe it or not he holds many of the same views on illegal immigration that I do. Your sides problem is that there is a majority in this country that see the borders as essential to maintaining our identity, we believe in legal immigration being equally available equally to all nationalities and we expect people who infiltrate the borders to be sent back expeditiously to their country of origin. Years back I became aware of a white Canadian illegal who had been in the U.S. for years, never working and living off whatever woman would carry his baggage and I turned him in, I'm equal opportunity that way. YOUR side is all about the racial component. Perhaps many on your side of the issue feel worthless about being born of Euro-decent and feel you need to take personal responsibility for past things like slavery, taking the land from the Indians, etc. and the only way you can compensate is by supporting tidal-waves of non-Euro illegal immigration via open borders. I'm not that way, I was born in a country long after these events that had its own people to take care of and an actual national identity to nurture with laws to insure this. I've studied enough to know that blacks sold blacks into slavery to whites in Africa, that white abolitionist got ride of slavery and that the Mexican government has waged a bloody war on its southern border killing thousands while at the same time providing logistical support to the citizens to circumvent the US border. I've also read enough to know that throwing open the border to millions who are racially conscious with the militant slogan "Viva La Raza" (long live the race) and "reconquista" (reconquest) most likely isn't very prudent.

To Sean:
I am against the presence of undocumented aliens in the United States. I am also against racism. Our current situation contains both.

Given that the majority of immigrants in our community have brown skin, hair and eyes--which makes them easily discernable from the rest of the population--there is a de facto element of racism present in these proceedings. The presence of that element is inescapable.

To Carl:
I gave up trying to have a dialogue with people when my attempts at discussion were met with questions about my loyalty to America, my level of intelligence and ultimately threats of physical harm. For the record, the threats of physical harm came from those who supported the petition.

Not that those who were against the petition necessarily presented arguments that I agreed with; it just so happened that they were more willing to listen to what I had to say. It has not been so with petition supporters.
I know people who, because of the degree of the threats received, have armed themselves.

I have often heard people state that the immigrant community has a responsibility to report undocumented aliens. I agree with that position, though believe it to be an unrealistic expectation.

It seems to me that just as the immigrant community has a responsibility to report illegal aliens, the community at large has a responsibility to reign in those who refuse to have an intelligent, reasoned discussion on a practical solution to the problem at hand, instead resorting to threats of violence to make their point. Until that behavior comes to an end, I will continue to "wear a helmet," so to speak.

As for Kris Kobach, all I can say is "Fair warning!" He has a right to do what he is doing, but we should be VERY cautious about allowing him to do it in our community. Based on what I have seen thus far, he is a masterful pupetteer.

The petition he authored and signed by so many citizens, if passed, would be like trying to drive a screw with a hammer--we're going to end up with a larger hole in the wall than we wanted, plus the picture won't hang. An utter, crystalline waste of time resulting in more work and a littany of unintended consequences. While I certainly respect the efforts put forth to get the petition signatures and certainly respect the right of citizens to engage in a petition drive, I believe the effort was misguided. We can, and should, demand better of ourselves, our leaders and our legal counsel.


I say again, "Fair warning."

One thing has been made clear by the comments here from folks like John and Carl. They have made thier beliefs quite clear here...and so we know where they stand.

From what I read...they will do whatever it takes to try and drum up support for thier hatred of "illegals" campaign. The event in question was NOT about immigration but about UNITY. Sadly it is clear the likes of John and Carl are not for unity.

Very Sad...but at least we can clearly see you for who you are. Your own words have made your position crystal clear and I hope that that were following your lead will see you both for who you are and what you are are really supporting.

John W. takes offense? Everyone continues to talk past each other in this conversation and no progress is made whatsoever. The question is not whether those planning this picnic condone illegal immigration. That is an absurd conclusion to make - and I find it offensive.

I haven't heard anyone denying that illegal immigration is a problem and that policy reform is necessary. The question is whether the measures set forth by this petition drive are even capable of effecting the needed change - and what it will cost the people of Fremont.

Meanwhile, as this "discussion" continues, nothing changes and no one really listens. At least the picnic was a positive way to bring people - of ANY ethnic background who chose to take part - together on a beautiful afternoon.

John has successfully taken comments from that day out of context in a way to serve his own purposes. As Mary Anne says, at least we know, by his comments, where he is coming from.....

It's pretty clear who is making racism the issue now.

I see a lot of these comments about illegal immigrants. You seem to blame them for everything. Now don't get me wrong yes they should become legal but do not put the economy blame all on them. A very large portion of them come here to work and do so. You really wanna target someone why don't you raise questions about the numbers of U.S. citizens in Fremont that suck up Government money just sitting at home. Tax payers are footing the bill for them and they whine they can't find a job while eating bonbons and watching soaps. I don't know about the rest of you hard working people but I am tired of supporting them. There are jobs if you look hard enough and programs available to help you get one and will even provide training for jobs. And I'm not talking about the ones who have had a job and been unfortunate to have been laid off, etc. They can't help their situation but the ones who collect money because they are to lazy to work and complain because they have a 2 dollar copay from medicaid while my copays are high and so is my health care coverage. And this isn't just a local issue it's everywhere. You want to blame the illegals but the problem has been here long before them. Look a little deeper. I say we cut off the Government checks and the bonbons and make these people get a job like the rest of us I am tired of my tax dollars going to them.

I guess I will be the first to ask some basic questions.

1. How will this immigration ordinance improve the daily lives of the people in Fremont? Come on, really improve our lives?

2. How will this ordinance be enforced. Are the police going to go door to door to see if everyone is a legal resident or not? Will a civilian code enforcement officer be hired to do this? Me thinks we will be running into 4th Amendment issues. Don't believe me, ask a local attorney; they will be able to explain it.

3. Are the tax payers of Fremont willing to foot the bill for the hiring of personnel to enforce this ordinance, the overtime that will be incurred, and the long drawn out court battles that are a sure thing if the ordinance passes and is enforced?

4. Are Fremonters willing to stand by while families are ripped apart because mom and dad are here illegally but their children are U.S. citizens? You think that is ok, then lets see you do it.

5. Are we going to heavily fine and possibly drive out Fremont employers because they have a few illegal immigrants working for them. Are you prepaired for what that will do to Fremont's local economy?

6. Finally, is it even feasible to enforce such an ordinance using only city resources. Let's say there are 1000 people in violation. That's 1000 people that need to be rounded up and processed. Are you going to house them in the Dodge Co. Jail while ordinance violation proceedings are taking place. Are they to be driven to the city limits, kicked out, and told to stay out of Fremont? Please tell me, how is this whole thing going to be put into motion? I would like to hear it.

I don't think Mr. Wiegert has thought this whole thing through.

I think the comments on these should be shut down.

It's turning into an open invitation for people to spread hate.

I get embarrassed of this town, and the constant bickering that occurs on these boards.

Dodge County Iron Fist
Jul 4, 2009 2:48 PM
I guess I will be the first to ask some basic questions.

1. How will this immigration ordinance improve the daily lives of the people in Fremont? Come on, really improve our lives?---It will rid us of all the people that are living and working here illegaly

2. How will this ordinance be enforced. Are the police going to go door to door to see if everyone is a legal resident or not? Will a civilian code enforcement officer be hired to do this? Me thinks we will be running into 4th Amendment issues. Don't believe me, ask a local attorney; they will be able to explain it.--- If you rent you will have to show proof that you are here legally by getting a card from the police. I will gladly pay a fee for one

3. Are the tax payers of Fremont willing to foot the bill for the hiring of personnel to enforce this ordinance, the overtime that will be incurred, and the long drawn out court battles that are a sure thing if the ordinance passes and is enforced?--- That will not be needed

4. Are Fremonters willing to stand by while families are ripped apart because mom and dad are here illegally but their children are U.S. citizens? You think that is ok, then lets see you do it. --- We are not ripping them apart they are doing it to themselves by coming here illegaly and dropping kids here also Mexico WILL NOT give citizenship to the children


5. Are we going to heavily fine and possibly drive out Fremont employers because they have a few illegal immigrants working for them. Are you prepaired for what that will do to Fremont's local economy?--- Yes. Because there is a Federal law that prohibits aiding and abating illegals

6. Finally, is it even feasible to enforce such an ordinance using only city resources. Let's say there are 1000 people in violation. That's 1000 people that need to be rounded up and processed. Are you going to house them in the Dodge Co. Jail while ordinance violation proceedings are taking place. Are they to be driven to the city limits, kicked out, and told to stay out of Fremont? Please tell me, how is this whole thing going to be put into motion? I would like to hear it.

I'll do my part, tired of typing posts anyway to have maybe 1 in 3 make it on the board. Tribune squared behind for the Water Park nobody wanted now they're screening posts asking people to prove what they post. That's why I get my news elsewhere. Ta Ta.

Here's my take on the whole thing,

1. Illegal is Illegal. End of story and yes, it should be all that needs to be said. Rape is rape, murder is murder, stealing is stealing. ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL.

2. I completely agreee with Look Deeper. It's not just the illegals, at least most of them aren't lazy. They'll get up off their butts and work (pretty hard as has been my experience). I know a couple of people that keep popping out kids and never get jobs. They live off ADC, Medicaid, WIC, disability, and child support. These are a major burden on our society (maybe more so than the illegals).

3. Prejudice is prejudice. Whether you hate someone for the color of their skin, their age, their sexual orientaion, their abilities or disabilities, their religion, or their heritage. Hate is hate. I'm unhappy with the people that have turned on the hispanics. I have friends that are mexican and they are great people. The ones that came up here the right way are just as upset about the illegals as the rest of us legal people are. Our counrty in and of itself is full of chineese illegals, black illegals, white illegals, japaneese illegals, and probably all other types of illegals you can think of. I'm sorry for those who have turned this into a recial thing. I know it's hard to believe but I, this one person with a voice, am not singling out the hispanics. This is not about race to me. It's about the law and what it means to our society as a whole if we allow one law to be broken.

I will admit I am a hater. I hate the politicians and corporate crooks who have traded our way of life and standard of living for a quick buck. My hatred is just spewing out of me against these people. But I will tell who I do not hate is any who is trying to escape that corrupt socialist degrading society that is just to our south. I do not hate any parent who wants to give thier kids a better chance at life other than living in that cesspool they call Mexico. I just do not want those problems here due to our unbeilable generosity that we have. That is why we need laws that need to be respected so we can keep this nation great. We can(and have though our history) help out a lot of people in this world, but just not all at once!!!!!!!

For those complaining about the sweedes analogy, yes there would be a backlash.
If the sweedish people came here, got on welfare and did nothing productive, yes there would be demands for deportation. Or were willing to work for far less then the normal working wage thus causing a lowering of the standerd of living.
Secondly its not about race, its about economics. On Z-92 radio station, a hispanic dr (DR ED) recieves calls by people regarding medical issues and he is very popular. He is a college educated legal professional. he is not taking a job from anyone nor undercutting anyone's wages. I am not going to deny there are a few ignorant racist out there who use immigration as an excuse to be racist. But regardless of motivation, illegal is still illegal and doing the right thing for the wrong reasons is still doing the right thing.
The people sneaking across the borders illegally are NOT college educated professionals, MLB Players like Albert Puhols, or Hollywood entertainers. Those people are respected for their talents.
Those sneaking in the nation are low-wage uneducated individuals who do undercut working wages or take jobs from normal working class people and even though they pay some taxes, they as a whole cost more to the tax payers then they take in. In a troubled economy of today with high gov debt load those are legitimate issues.
There is nothing wrong with LEGAL immigraiton. My high school prom date decades ago was a hot Asian young woman who's parents & famiy were Viet Nam war refugees. When someone wants to immigrate then do so LEGALLY with proper background and medical checks. or political circumstances and within the number determined by the federal government.

to Sean
that is what they call freedom of the press.They print only what they want.
Our negative opinion does not matter' I have posted many and many did notpass Tribunes standard
And abouve all I use my rteal name. I don't hide

Isn't it sad that our nation has gotten to the point of not enforcing our laws because of financial backlash or threat of financial lawsuits. Coerician should be as illegal as breaking any of the other laws of this country. It is sad that we allow a whole community (illegals) to dictate to us because of financil backlash. All this does is give illegals a sense of entitlement. Just look at Ricardo (one of the many blogs). Basically saying I am illegal and there is nothing you can do about it, hahaha! That I find disgusting!

To LovesIrony:

When I refer to blue hairs as the older crowd in Fremont who are stuck in their ways, I in no way, included all the eldery people in Fremont, so I don't know how I'm being stereotypic of the eldery. There are plenty of elderly people in Fremont that are open minded and willing to accept change. You can quit trying to spin my posts and trying to make me the hater. I'm glad I didn't have to use the word toddlers. Then I'd be painted as hating children.

I still agree in some part if they are here become citizens. But everyone is still quick to blame them for a mess that was here before them. Only about 10 to 15% of illegals are a drain compared to 25 to 40% of natural citizens that are. That says a lot. Let's try cleaning up the mess that was here before them. The Government hands out way to much to people that pop kids out like skittles and do not even take care of them. The other day I saw an elderly woman with a walker have to walk quite a distance into a store because the handicap stalls were filled with younger people who had stickers that allowed them to park there because they are on Government checks for themselves or their children. This country allows you to eat till your to big to work or drink and do drugs so you have a handicapped child and they will give you everything. Work hard put effort into your life and your reward you get to support these people. Tired of it yet, I am. I can not claim them on my taxes so why should I support them. I would much rather go to work and see a Hispanic next to me at least they show up for work and do their job most Americans will call in with a hangnail and then I pick up the slack for them.
This country affords opportunities if you are willing to work for them and the Hispanic class is willing to work hard like a lot of us so shouldn't we all stop the hate thing and move on to real issues.

can anyone here tell me if you can tell who the illegals are??? if so who???? and can you prove it??? if not,then dont post your opinions and rude remarks if you have no facts! the fact here is that no one knows for a fact,that their are "illegal Hispanics" in Fremont! if you do comment on this post plzzz give me names and i will apologize..................

In response to "For Unity", my children have all been taught by John Wiegert and he is an excellent teacher. I would without hesitation recommend him to anyone who asked. It is possible for a person to have a political opinion without bringing that to the classroom.

Sometimes I think that anger is the only thing that gives people a reason to wake up in the morning. Sad.

I never agree with Bobo but I can't argue with him on this one.

OK, are you serious? Handicap stalls being taken up by young people with handicapped children?? And they have had those handicapped children on purpose to get good parking and other 'benefits'.........hmmmm!
I know a couple of older people too proud to get a handicapped sticker who need one. And plenty of able bodied parking in the handicapped stalls.
Your reasoning is very strange...maybe you should "look deeper".

Angel,

I work in the social services field. I can tell you the names of many LEGAL girls who are pregnant by ILLEGAL guys. Since the mom is LEGAL, she gets 100% benefits (Medicaid, food stamps, housing, WIC etc...)

Since my work is all confidential, I cannot give you the names.

You are right, you cannot tell by looking at someone if they are legal or illegal, but there are many illegals in Fremont and surrounding communities.

Thank you "Fed Up", but I don't think Angel will believe anything you say without somehow proving it to her.

I also know of several and for a long time had a single mom next door who didn't stay long but validated that there are many in Fremont including herself.

To Angel,
I think there should be a investigation of you leaking out personal information. How do you know if the father is legal or illegal?,color maybe? Or do you just take the girls word for it because then it is easy for her to get benefits.
Have you ever thought of that!!!!

To mary,
Fed up did NOT reveal any personal information by anyone. just saying that some single mothers are pregnant by illegal guys is not the same as saying the names of the fathers out in a public forum. Law enforcement do that all the time when they make arrests by saying "insert name" was arrested for allegedly commiting such crime.
Yes it is possible that the information came from the pregnant mothers is not accurate, but when they give the name of the father, that can be checked by the state so they can go after child support for said child. So illegal status can be found out either way. If an address or social security # of an alleged dad does not check out to the dad, that increases the chance of the dad being illegal and that means the taxpayers will foot the bills for medical and other costs of said child.

Dude- when law enforcement states a persons name in a report or it is printed in the paper it is not breaching confidentiality, it is public record. There is no confidentiality in public records. If you don't want your name in the paper for doing something stupid, don't do something stupid. Simple as that.