LETTER: It’s great to have diverse population

I'm glad you had a good time at the picnic. I'm sure everyone there was a law abiding, contributing member of our society. No rapists, drug dealers, shoplifters, vandals or illegals. One law breaker is no different than another law breaker. That's only fair!

Sorry, but I’m a history buff. Native Americans aren’t native at all. Homo sapiens are not indigenous to the American continents. The earliest known examples of Early American’s are collectively known by the Clovis theory named for an arrow head found in the remains of a bison near Clovis NM. Since arrow heads defined cultures 14,000 years ago it’s interesting that the stone points that most closely match the Clovis point are found in France around the same period. Also some dig in South America are finding Aboriginal remains nearly 18,000 years old, older than Clovis. Who was the first America is an interesting question that isn’t settled.

When Romans Armies invaded the Iberian Peninsula during the first Punic War they named the area now know as Spain and Portugal, Hispania. The Word Hispanic is taken from the Latin word Hispania. The term Latino is taken from the word Latin. Latin is the native language of Italy also dating from the time of Roman conquest.

The native cultures of Central and much of South America were obliterated by Conquistadors. Aztecs didn’t dance with bearded costumes with an image of Our Mother of Guadalupe in ancient times. During the festival the dance was described as a way a conquered people mocked the Spaniards. Little is left of the conquered people that inhabited Central America. Brutal as the Colonial French and British were to American Indian tribes many of there cultures, languages and traditions exist to this day unlike the Aztecs & Mayans.

Personally, I’ve always found it amusing that we, as a society, spend million each year to “Preserve” the cultural of Spain in the name of diversity. Spanish is the native language of Spain not the Mayans. Once a new people settle in what is today the United State it is their responsibility to learn the customs and culture of their Nation. I’m all for learning new things in the wonderful melting of traditions that makes this country great. What I can’t buy into is rewriting a brutal obliteration of a people with US tax dollars then selling it as cultural diversity.

Dear Becca,

U.S., state and local laws do recognize a difference in the severity of the law broken. That explains why most speeding and vandalism offenses are misdemeanors while murders are felonies. Yes, illegal is illegal. But I guess there are people who do consider speeding and vandalism just as bad as murder.

Gosh....what a wonderful, fuzz and make you feel warm all over letter. I just feel better reading it over and over!

With all due respect, I guess, I am sort of slow...what did the history lesson have to do with Fremont's present and future issues in dealing with the 'illegal' immigrant situation in FremontNebraskaUSA?

Also, Carl, please...I am still chuckling...we went from Native Americans to Roman Aries to Conquistadors to finally the Aztecs.

Sweet, simple and to the point --- this entire issue will be settle when the court responds, and if we are allowed to vote on the proposed ordinance.

End of story....thanks for listening!

Disinformation really bugs me especially when it’s being used to confuse the simple issue Joe refers to. It may seem pointless to some but when we, as a Nation, teach lies to children in order to push a false premise I must speak out. Illegal Immigration has nothing to do with Hispanics. The question of controlling Illegal Immigration is as simple as illegal meaning illegal. Tossing race, especially when pinned to some illogical none history, into a hot button issue in order to crush free speech is wrong.

As a future example, the comment regarding felonies over misdemeanors is misleading. It’s true that illegally entering the United States is a misdemeanor. However, working here as an Illegal would involve at least one felony. One misdemeanor doesn’t excuse identify thief and tax fraud, both felonies. It’s also illegal to assist in the transportation or employment of Illegal Aliens since this group is easily exploited by dishonest people.

The common theme to my long winded post is dishonesty begets more dishonesty. Using twisted logic to defend the indefensible just injects hostilities where none exist. I can’t apologize for correcting a “warm fuzzy” that was based on incorrect information.

thank you Carl
I'm never to old to learn something new
I did like your response

Carl, the intent of my post was not to insult you in any way.

The Dake's in their letter made a simple
one sentence mention of mentioning "native Americans."

And it is fine that you are a history buff...I know lots of people who are very much into American and world history.

I was chuckled because this one reference to "native Americans,: resulted in a four paragraph history
lesson.

And sorry, Carl, illegal is illegal,
and that will (hopefully) be decided by a vote of the people (as it should be);
mean while we shouldn't take our individual ego's so seriously. I guess, I am much more concerned about the present than the past.

Thanks for listen, enjoy JCF Days and have a great weekend.

Being called a racist is probably one of the most derogatory things that someone can be called in this country. That is why the pro- ordinance crowd does everything it can to wash its hands of that dirty word. The problem is when you get right down to it; the issue has nothing to do with being in the country legally or illegally. It has to do with people who are different in their appearance and culture.

I know this because I am white and when I am in the presence of other white, mostly older, people here in Fremont, their true colors are revealed. I hear comments like “those Mexicans cause nothing but trouble in this town”. “They should bulldoze 807 S. Broad St. and kick all those Mexicans out.” “I’m tired of these Mexican people not controlling their children and blasting that mariachi music as they drive down the streets in their low rider cars.”

I for one like having a large amount of Hispanic people here in Fremont. They are hard working and they are not lining up in droves for a handout at the welfare buffet. It always seems like it is white people who always wanting something for nothing in Fremont.

to Dodge County Iron Fist
" It always seems like it is white people who always wanting something for nothing in Fremont."
That has nothing to do with RACE it has to do a lot on how you were brought up.

How many would admit they were here illegaly? It is ashame the innocent has to suffer with the guilty. OUR problem is we GENERALIZE and we ASSUME things and that is what we are doing with this problem
And I am guilty of this also like many other of you

Andy:
First time in a long time I agree with you. Fist's comment echo's what I (and others) see about many Fremonters. They see brown skin,and they automatically think "illegal". And a good number are. Likewise, if I hear 2 blue-hairs make the comments Fist has heard, I tend to assume that most (if not all) older Fremonters think the same way. It is also wrong to think that everyone opposed to the ordumbnance is an advocate for illegal immigration.
It would be good (someday) if some of us could sit down and have a beer or 14.

The history of Mexican-American people is wide-ranging, spanning more than four hundred years and varying from region to region within the United States. Mexican-Americans were once concentrated in the states that formerly belonged to Mexico, including California, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and Texas; they began creating communities in Los Angeles, Santa Ana, California, San Francisco, Denver, Chicago and other steel producing regions when they obtained employment there during World War I. More recently, Mexican immigrants have increasingly become a large part of the workforce in industries such as meat packing throughout the Midwest, in agriculture in the southeastern United States, and in the construction, landscaping, restaurant, hotel and other service industries throughout the country.

Mexican-American identity has also changed markedly throughout these years. in past hundred years Mexican-Americans have campaigned for voting rights, stood against educational, employment, ethnic discrimination and stood for economic and social advancement. At the same time many Mexican-Americans have struggled with defining and maintaining their community's identity. In the 1960s and 1970s, some Hispanic student groups flirted with nationalism and differences over the proper name for members of the community of Chicano/Chicana, Latino/Latina, Mexican-Americans, Hispanics or simply La Raza became tied up with deeper disagreements over whether to integrate into or remain separate from Anglo society, as well as divisions between those Mexican-Americans whose families had lived in the United States for two or more generations and more recent immigrants. We have been and always be here. Viva La Raza Unida.

Until the early 1800’s the area now being called Mexico was referred to as, “La Nueva España” which translated means New Spain. The term Mexico was taken from the Mexico Valley in Central Mexico to refer to the Spanish territory in the “New World” in the 1800’s before the Mexican Revolution. Mexico, as it’s currently known, is an entirely European creation. The many City States of ancient Central America were never referred to as Mexico much less functioned as a unified state.

The States and Cities mentioned are named by Conquistadors or by the tribes that inhabited those lands. This false history that Mexico was a long established country before the age of conquest is simply not true. While its true many crimes against native people happened during this period it’s dishonest to claim they were limited to English and French Colonist to the North.

The debate, as framed by the previous poster, is whether the United States of America, the great melting pot of nearly every tradition on the face of the earth, should be replaced with the language culture and customs of Spain. I will politely submit that forcing a people to bend to the will of invading people is still just as wrong as it was hundreds of years ago. What essentially is being argued is that the people that conquered Center America are better than those that conquered North American. How is playing, “my oppressor is better than your oppressor’ hundreds of years after the fact a valid debate?

Even the term, “Viva La Raza Unida” is Spanish. I don’t speak Spanish but think it refers to, “Long Live a United Race” which is taken from a 1925 book “La Raza Cosmica” which pushes that idea. Mixing of blood lines doesn’t matter but political conquest does. How about, “God Bless America”!

Geez Carl, let's go all the waaaaay waayy back to :
first some fish crawled out of the primordial ooze and turned into a person after a billion years and eventually one group made it to the Americas first, hence the term "Native Americans"......
the first one here, WINs! (or not)

I congratulate everyone on their knowledge of Mexican history,etc.

But....I am far more interested in FremontNebraskaUSA in 2009; then Mexican History 101.

And this is not intended as a insult to anyone. Thanks for listen.

Isn't it interesting how certain factions like to pull the racist card when they have nothing else to use ?
Talk about talking points...lets see now since we can't argue against the law we will just call everyone racists.
Your slip is showing..LOL

On a side note collectivism does not bring people together it keeps people divided.